Showing posts with label Free Speech. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Free Speech. Show all posts

Hal Turner and the Limits of Free Speech

>> Sunday, August 16, 2009

When you state that someone deserves to die and that their death would replenish the tree of liberty as well as assure the freedom of millions, is your speech protected? That is the central question in the case of right wing radical and white supremacist associate hal turner. Turner's blog entry of June 2 and his subsequent arrest set off a rather large wave of discussion across the Internet. Turner isnt an unknown fringer blogging but a prominent right wing radio host. His speech is often shocking and because of his history and the nature of his speech he provides an interesting case for the boundaries of free speech.

Turners exact conduct

"Let me be the first to say this plainly: These Judges deserve to be killed," Turner wrote on his blog on June 2, according to the FBI. "Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty. A small price to pay to assure freedom for millions."

The next day, Turner posted photographs of the appellate judges and a map showing the Chicago courthouse where they work, noting the placement of "anti-truck bomb barriers."
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On his blog, Turner cited another 7th Circuit ruling against white supremacist Matthew Hale, who once called for Lefkow's assassination. Turner also mentioned the Lefkow murders, although they were unrelated to the Hale case.

"Apparently, the 7th U.S. Circuit court didn't get the hint after those killings. It appears another lesson is needed," Turner wrote. "These judges deserve to be made such an example of as to send a message to the entire judiciary: Obey the Constitution or die."


The current test to determine when speech crosses the line from protected speech to unprotected speech comes from brandenburg v ohio. From Brandenburg v. Ohio

"... the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

So turners potential protection rides on three factors.
1) Is what he wrote considered advocacy?
2) Was the lawless action imminent?
3) Was the production of the action from the speech likely?

The first step is deciding whether Turner was actually advocating for the deaths of the three federal judges. Based on his statements that the judges deserve to be killed it is still plausible to categorize the speech as opinion and not advocacy. There is a gap between suggesting that were something to occur it would be ok or even good and actually directing someone to do it. It is a thin line -- but a line. If all he had said was that, Turner might have a decent chance. His problem is that he went a little further.

In addition to positively speaking about their deaths turner provided pictures of the judges, directions to the courthouse, and locations of security measures. These actions in association with his words make it very hard to say that he didn't intend for something to happen to them. Those actions provide some context that indicates his words were more than opinion. The references to a previous assassination also make his statements look less like opinion and more like a call to action. My feeling is that will find that he was advocating not spouting opinion.

The second part of the test is the temporal element. Was turner advocating for the imminent assassinations of the judges. If we take the OSHA version we define imminent danger as immediate serious risk of death or serious physical harm. I think it is safe to say that if he was advocating for their assassination he was asking for it to happen soon before they could make more adverse rulings or otherwise rule against his perceived definition of liberty. Turner certainly wanted it to happen before they ruled to take his guns away. he seemed to portray that this would happen soon. I am satisfied that he was not advocating for this to happen at some undefined date far into the future.


The final piece of the puzzle is the likelihood that the actions turner was advocating could come to pass. It's hard to say whether the violence turner advocated was truly likely. There have not been any reports of someone acting based on turner's words but actual danger isnt the standard. How long do you have to wait before something can be considered likely? Till the bomber buys the material? Till the bomb is made? For myself im satisfied that in the current political climate with the assassination of George Tiller and the shootings in Stanton Heights and the Lefcow killings the nature of the threat turner was inciting could be classified as likely. The issue may eventually make it to the Court simply to provide guidance on this term.

I agree with First Amendment scholar Martin H. Redish quoted in the WaPo that

"...much of what Turner wrote is protected by the Constitution, including his declarations that the judges should be eliminated. But he said Turner probably crossed a line when he printed information about the judges, their office locations and the courthouse.

"I would give very strong odds on a thousand bucks that once he said that stuff, it takes it out of any kind of hyperbole range," said Redish, a professor at Northwestern University Law School. "I just don't see him being protected."


Turner's speech should not ultimately be protected. Not explicitly mentioned in the WaPo article is the undercurrent that the judiciary is not likely to be lenient on calls for their deaths. I dont believe that a court is going to need a particularly strong likelihood that a fellow judge is going to be assassinated before they criminalize the speech. Maybe they shouldnt take the fact that the potential targets are fellow judges into account but i think they will. If it comes down to it they might even try and fit this into the "fighting words" doctrine. Turner is going to be going to prison for his blog entry. I think he exceeded the bounds of protected political speech.

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Restrictions on Hate Speech

>> Tuesday, April 28, 2009

In con law my professor asked a question about whether we should restrict hate speech. By speech he meant real speech. The act of talking. Whether we should be so tolerant of the Nazis marching through Skokie. Would we be so tolerant of them if we thought they had a chance of actually succeeding in convincing people that they were correct? If we viewed Nazis as a serious threat to democracy and amercian society would we shut them down?

There are separate questions and issues in there. the first is about the restriction of hate speech. the greater portion of society views hate speech like nigger in a very negative light. People in the national eye who use it in a pejorative sense are spotlighted, singled out for rebuke. This i believe is a good thing. Allowing the haters to spew their hatred allows for the rest of society to identify them and to deal with them accordingly. I do not wish to support hate in any of its forms and i cant avoid doing so unless i have information about who hates. If we repress the haters ability to mouth off then i cant separate myself from them socially, economically, etc. I cant identify their mode of thinking as something that is incorrect. The stifling of those with deviant opinions will build resentment and a underground traffic in the hate.

The benefits above only work in an environment where the majority is willing to condemn the hate view. The benefit in knowing who hates is realized with the social ostracism and castigation mitted out. If however, the majority of a society agrees with the hate then the benefit in allowing the hate speech to flourish is reduced dramatically. When the hate is mainstream instead of heretical different approaches are needed to deal with it. This is where the idea of shutting down the nazis and kkk etc comes in.

Hate speech has real consequences for the minorities it is targeted against. It creates a climate of fear and anger in those communities. When the minority communities are left to deal with the hate on their own without the support of the non haters the speech is even more dangerous and the benefits of allowing it seem to disappear as the group ceases to be a minority. The same is true for allowing the Nazis to spew their hate speech if they had a chance to actually effect the discourse and policy of the country.

The rules are designed to defend minorities from the majorities. As soon as the Nazi and other hate looks like it might transition from minority view to majority view then it is fair game for the restrictions needed to keep the minority safe. The protection of the minority from the abuse and hate becomes the overriding social purpose. I suspect that if it looked like the Nazis might actually take over as a dominant view they would be shut down.

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They Came for the Cartoonist.

>> Wednesday, April 15, 2009

via Juan Cole.

Last Thursday, police raided a cartoon exhibition in the Shiite holy city of Karbala and seized a drawing depicting Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with a long nose trying to repair a car labeled "sectarian distribution of jobs," according to lawmaker Mufid al-Jazairie.

Al-Jazaire, who is chairman of the parliamentary education committee, said the raid was a violation of constitutional guarantees of freedom of expression.

Freedom of expression has often been cited as a pillar of the new democracy that was established following the collapse of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship during the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.
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Karbala Governor Amal-Din al-Hir said police raided the exhibition because it had not been authorized by local authorities. He said no cartoon was seized, although Abid and al-Jazairie insisted that it was.


In America political cartoons have a long and venerated history. some have been pretty harsh but all have been protected as an important part of democratic government. If political cartoons are ok only with prior authorization thats a big problem

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